hyperloop throws

heho poiple

I read the spherculism thread on poiinthepark.net and also the posts about hyperloop throws and I am sure that they are possible . I am actually doing some kind of a butterfly hyperloop throw , a very short move but not very hard to learn . does anybody of you have another experiences with these moves ?

greetings , duvan

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Not me, I didnt even know they existed. Right on Sphism/smilesmiley

M-P Kid

I think they exist - nobody knows for sure but they aren't maybe that difficult everybody's thinking ...
Yesterday I thought about the ideal poi for this technique - And I came to the result that both ends must have the same weight for the ideal hyperloop throw thingy Sphism/winksmiley ( just like 2 mini - meteors )

My butterflyhyperloopthrow has 2 variations : Do a normal bf hyperloop and then throw both poi in the air - not very high . they will solve from each other and then you can catch each poi

or do a bf hyperloop and only release the left or right poi then if it is a well done one it will make an circle and then you can catch it again

ps : why does everybody claim bf hyperloops are that difficult ? seriously , I tried them 10 minutes and then I got them but maybe Iam doing them wrong :roll: Sphism/winksmiley

Butterfly Hyperloop?? I am so un-educated... Matt, I need that encyclopedia desperately Sphism/gigglesmiley Hmm... so tell me duVan... what the heck are these and how do you do them? 8O Tankas Sphism/gigglesmiley

M-P Kid

hi poikid

look at dan's "hyperloop" vid on http://www.flamingsphere.homestead.com/divxencoded.html

I think that he even was the guy that invented this funny hyperloop

ps : well , watched this vid again and saw that Iam doing them in a different way - looks almost the same but after I untangled my poi Iam in a reverse butterfly

edit :uh oh the "alternatedownloadsite" doesn't exist anymore ... :cry:

maybe you can email djdantana and ask him if he could repair this broken link

I've had that video for the longest time. I should watch it more.

I can throw my left poi out of a 2 beat hyperloop, but usually the handle gets caught up.

Never tried with butterfly HL.

However, this weekend I was spinning outdorrs and it gave me a chance to practice Catching one poi with the other, a hyperloop catch. Throw 1 poi underarm, as it comes down accelerate the other poi into it, just to the head side of the center of gravity (a few inches down from the head) With aany luck the poi will spin round and jump back into the air, where you can leap to catch it ~ if anyone can do this twice in a row then you are fabulous.

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Matt said--

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However, this weekend I was spinning outdorrs and it gave me a chance to practice Catching one poi with the other, a hyperloop catch.

Oooh I'm so playing with that as soon as it stops raining Sphism/gigglesmiley

try this: swing one poi between your legs from btb (your standard beginer between the legs move... except approach this as if you are going to toss the poi betwn your legs), and at the same time, swing the oTher poi down in front of you so that the chains wrap once(I prefer to swing it upwards like a scoop, but either way is fine)... let go of the poi that is between your legs and lightly yank upward with the other poi to pull it through. The free handle should swing right up in front of you to where you can catch it with the free hand. It takes a little time to get used to not tangling the poi so much that they don't seperate easily. That trick is always a crowd pleaser. My gift to you.
I have to give props to Mr. Ring for thinking that one up like a year ago. So it's more his gift to you through me.
knowledge is power. power is fun. Sphism/gigglesmileySphism/gigglesmiley

Thank you very much pheonix, i'll definitely be experimenting with that. I find that my 'handles' get caught up when I do hype throws, they are counterweighted for throwing and i've recently customized them for linking tapbacks together, thinking i'll make a new set soon.

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the best poi that I have seen for doing any kind of throws and 'hyper catches' were very odd... they were 2 feet of heavy chain (1" links) with a wick on the end and handle on the other, which brought the center of mass almost directly to the center of the poi.

Like double Meteor.

Dom likes using double meteor for poi throws. I prefer having the center of gravity closer to the head because when you isolate the throws you can keep your hand stationary, the poi head spins passed without touching and the handle comes back to your palm. But each to their own.

I do definitely wanna do a little redesign of my tools though.

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same here matt...you might laugh if you held my poi, the wicks are so heavy that I get comments about it any time a new person plays with my poi. That would be a combination of huge fire wicks and the bolt that holds them together, but I stumbled on a new way to build my cathedrals recently which is going to cut the weight in half, and I am looking forward to that. However, I am also interested in moving the center of mass away from the head and a bit towards the center, because when isolating (which i do naturally nearly all the time) i tend want to spin around the head rather than the center of the chain. Not really sure how to accomplish that just yet...thought about maybe adding weight to my handle. But, my poi already spin like a well tuned cadillac so I am hesitant to mess with them. But yea, to each his own, that iS what makes this world so damn interesting.

I think an isolated hyperloop throw would look cool, I can picture it.

so , finally worked ?my butterfly hyperthrows

here's a short description of them

doing a butterfly hyperthrow :
start doing some kind of a butterfly hyperloop in the buzzsaw - zone
then let the poi tangle 2xtimes and then throw 'em in the air
- catch them and go on with a smple butterfly Sphism/smilesmiley

extension: doing the same things as described above but release only one poi - that's real fun :roll:

greetz

max

That sounds really cool. Any tips or advice on butterfly hyperloops, in general but also in buzzsaw?

i've been trying to work out how these are possible with normal hyperloops cos my butterfly one's aren't that consistent.

matt, did oli show you his version of these? he hasn't nailed it yet but it looked very possible...

btw, if you haven't been on HOP lately quite a few people said hello on the glasto thread:
http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=215509&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=19&vc=1

hmm, figured id actually post sommint here rather than lurking as normal...

i got those hyperloop throws pretty much all the time now, i can do three flavours. they are all the same, except for the exit.

to get into it, i start in backwards weave, when the poi are on my right side i tangle my poi as if i was gonna do an airwrap, as poi get about half way through airwrap, i let go of my right poi, they stay linked togeth and do a circle on my right side. then you grab the handle of the right poi again.
the easiest way to get out of this is just to stall the whole lot and it comes untangled, this looks messy though.
another exit is as soon as you catch the right poi move the tangle to youre left side to it comes untangled.. i reckon you could move it to buzsaw for a bit too if you wanted.
or you can exit as if you would exit an airwrap, this seems quite tricky though, and only works sometimes. you kinda need to give it all a little jerk as you catch the right poi.

i reckon you could also get out of this with some wrist wraps if you feel cool. :roll:

I find if i tangle nearer the handle the poi flicks up in the air and spins really quick, then you can catch it, or if you dabble in spherculescence, exit with a wibble Sphism/winksmiley

Needless to say, these aren't at all slick. And oli's tangles are way better than mine, although i have got those crazy turns going on now.

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so are you just letting go of one handle then oli? if so that sounds like an airwrap suicide(?!?) which was talked about a while ago. the real challenge is a double release!! i can do them from a butterfly hyperloop but they come apart in the air so i catch the two poi once they've seperated....

BUT what about a weave hyperloop double release? 8O

yea im just letting go of the one handle...

i can let go of both handles and it flys around in the air in a kind of cross shape, which looks pretty.... but theres no hope in hell of me catching it and coming out of it smoothley yet.

note the 'yet' everybody... Sphism/winksmiley