Defined ~ Butterfly
Defined ~ Butterfly
Butterfly
When both poi are spinning in the same plane in opposite direction with the same centre of rotation.
NB The rest of this thread is the discusion which lead up to the description shown here and does not lead on from here.
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Defined ~ Butterfly
A move in which both poi are travelling in opposite directions in the same plane.
Defined ~ Butterfly
Poi move in opposite directions in the same space, so the paths of the poi follow the same circle but with opposite directions. Your hands are held as close together as possible to achieve this "same circle" look.
Parallel time: Poi cross at the top and the bottom of the circle.
Split time: Poi cross at the sides of the circle.
Defined ~ Butterfly
Basically just two poi making two overlapping circles in opposite directions.
Defined ~ Butterfly
Standard butterfly----
A move done in the z-plane with each poi going the opposite direction, meeting at the top and the bottom, though entering can be done with both poi spinning forwards or reverse, so though they are going opposite directions in the butterfly they need not enter that way...... lalalalala blah blah blah dode do de do.......i'm tired........
Defined ~ Butterfly
Seems this would be where the terms 'inwards' and 'outwards' would come in handy.
Two poi spinning inwards or outwards in front of you in the wall plane with your hands as close as possible to make the circles overlap.
Defined ~ Butterfly
I myself have always been confused by saying inwards or outwards...because I've wondered, inwards or outwards from or to what? Because if you think about it, it could go inwards to the center of the bod, or inwards from the feet but what I think people call outwards but what about outwards from the feet? If someone could set me straight on this that'd be super helpful
M-P Kid
Defined ~ Butterfly
The Butterfly is when the poi are spinning in oppisite directions in the same space creating one big circle.
Defined ~ Butterfly
when the poi make one circle in the same plane but going opposite directions...
Defined ~ Butterfly
All works here. I find it kind of difficult to discribe in text.
Defined ~ Butterfly
ummmm.. I'msure you meant to knock some of that off...
Defined ~ Butterfly
well since you defined buzzsaw not butterfly directly.. I assumed perhaps you forgot to cut a little off.. hence the comment..
Defined ~ Butterfly
Butterfly
When both poi are spinning in the same plane in opposite direction with the same centre of rotation.
Does that incorporate everyone's points?
Defined ~ Butterfly
Looks good to me.
Is the Encyclopoidia going to have any basic diagrams? I'm not suggesting it as a learning tool, but it might be handy to just have a 3D cube diagram showing all basic planes (and adavnced ones with defs) and a little pic of poi direction, center of rotation etc etc. Just a thought.
Chut
Defined ~ Butterfly
Yeah I was thinking of having a 3-d diagram with a person standing inside a cube to show the six basic planes... need someone with more graphics skills than me to do it though!
Defined ~ Butterfly
Does a butterfly have to be spun with both poi in the same plane???
What about 90 degree planes???
Like Atom patterns.
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Defined ~ Butterfly
That's a whole new level of complexity that doesn't define a butterfly, it defines a variant move I'd say.
Defined ~ Butterfly
Perhaps we could assume that in a 90 degree butterfly the poi both spin in the SAME PLANE but the SPACE WHICH THAT PLANE IS IN HAS BEEN CURVED THRU 90 DEGREES.
That way the description above about both poi in same plane still holds true and the 90 degree plane change becomes a SPACE MODIFIER.
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Defined ~ Butterfly
Again though aren't we just complicating the issue? If we're defining a "butterfly" then we should define the basic butterfly and stick variations somewhere else entirely or have them listed underneath the basic definition.
Defined ~ Butterfly
I think it would be very confusing to have that variation listed w/ the basic butterfly definition, for 2 reasons. 1, it should be a basic butterfly definition and 2, it so wouldnt stop with the 90 degree variation, because there are soooo many space modifiers that can be done you'd have a list 2 pages long under the "basic butterfly" definition ya know? I think that it should have spiralx's definition, then somewhere below have the other stuff...HOWEVER...perhaps we should also just put in those that are commonly known like alternate butterfly mexican wave etc etc with the definitions and all that there, and leave out the space modifiers and other more variated patterns for the forums, so that if they REALLY want to know about it, they just enter the forums eh? But for the basic butterfly, I like spiralx's and think the space modifiers suggested by matt should be with the other variations, or even in a category of its own with 'space modifiers'
-poikid-
Defined ~ Butterfly
agreed
Defined ~ Butterfly
Cool