Defined ~ Windmill

A move where one poi follows the other and makes one circle in front of your head (parallel to your torso) and one circle behind your head (again parallel to your torso).

You can add beats to a windmill, so having that it does one circle in front of your head makes it inacurate. I think there's a video of that around somewhere.

Ok all this makes sense but something I've noticed is that we're describing what the poi is doing, not including often where the 'hands'...cause sure we'll get what kind of path and shape the poi has, but I think it'll be very confusing for others (and myself, i'm bad about that sort of thing) of not telling where the hands really going. Example the windmill--- A move where one poi follows the other and makes one circle in front of your head (parallel to your torso) and one circle behind your head (again parallel to your torso).--Perhaps we should say that the hands are resting mostly just above the head? Unless ofcourse in giants.......ok I'll stop ranting now but its just a thought I had.

M-P Kid

its a weave a.k.a a figure 8 that is symetrical between the upper front wall plane and the upper rear wall plane..

z plane doesnt automatically mean windmill.. you need to specify that it is over head.. btl is still z plane... and hipmills are z plane but with the point of focus at the hip..

exactly.. .

now understanding what she meant by pinwheel.. a pinwheel is by no means a required part of a fountain

the motions and pattern of the corkscrew and windmill are identicall to each other.. that is, they involve equal parts both hands.. making a more natural even swing pattern... but can be done odd.. the weave is more of a crossed over type thing as she stated..but those are as always.. accidental properties.. consequences of the arm position.. its like doing a butterfly in the side plane vs doing a butterfly in the wallplane..one is crossed over.. that does not make them different... oi...

Seems like it to me pollenski. Good because it can also be applied to corkscrew.

A weave in the wall plane....it seems that would be a hipmill or a mid-mill, or else part of a fountain??

No, there is a wall plane 3 beat weave... the hipmill is a wall plane 2 beat weave but you can do the 3bt in the same place...

Oh your right spiralx, lol that didnt even occur to me. Matt's sounds good.

You're confusing things That's a N-beat windmill

Windmill

A weave done over the head with planes in front and behind the head.

Tidied it up a bit I think, the "(see weave)" bit will be a link in the wiki.

it's also referred to as the halo sometimes

that halos that I read on hop were called flaming halos and referred to an airwrap done form a windmill when it was bth..

I also usedthat particular connotation when I talked about expanding and contracting tangles.. since you could take a tanlge (whihc is essentially like an airwrap) shrink it down (like an orbital) bring it bth and expand it as it passes bth to give you that awesome halo effect that is popular in christian art.. and subsequently shrink it back down as it comes from bth..

I'm not saying halo hasnt been used in the context fo just a windmill, I'm just saying I haven't read about it in that context... (though I had read about halos on hop as I cite above)

I'm not sure where its posted at.. honestly.. there's a number of tangle threads... shrinking a tanlge is taking an airwrap down to an orbital. (ie pulling the hands apart) expanding a tanlge is bring the hands back together so that the diameter expands back out into and airwrap.. the momentum does it on its own.. its just as the poi lose speed (from the larger diameter) they tend to get wobbly..