Defined ~ Release
Defined ~ Release
Release:
A move where at any point in spinning the handle is released and the poi continues moving by its own momentum with its path unaltered, instead of having its momentum and path controlled by the hand. When desired one grabs the handle or some part of the poi, usually without adding any jerkiness; thus looking like it merely reattaches the hand and continues spinning. Different from a toss.
NB The rest of this thread is the discusion which lead up to the description shown here and does not lead on from here.
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Defined ~ Release
I always thought of releases differant from tosses and even throws. Release to me seems to be where instead of 'tossing' it UP into the air to the point of where you have control over where its going, you end up in the middle of a pattern and just letting go, so the poi just continues its path and when the time is right you just reattach your hand to it, not breaking the flow at all. Thats mine anyway. Hope this effects
M-P Kid
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You are totally right, i never thought about it like that but their is definitely a difference between releasing and tossing your poi, nice work, now we just need to refine that idea.
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I've always used release as merely letting go of the poi.. by this I mean the poi leaves the hand of its own momentum, not from the hands moementum..
i.e. when the poi is wrapping around the leg and you release and then catch the handle as it swings around.. or when you do a tangle and let go and catch the handle one the swing around..
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Exactly
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Works here.
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[quote="Rev"]I've always used release as merely letting go of the poi.. by this I mean the poi leaves the hand of its own momentum, not from the hands moementum..
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Ok, it seemed to me that we were deeply discussing only a few of the many moves/patterns whatever we decide to call 'em. So, in my first attempt at making a definition, here goes
(I didnt really think of it as a pattern , cause it can be thrown INTO a pattern so I put in move, if that is the incorrect word to use...well correct me 
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Release:
A move where at any point in spinning the handle is released, the poi continueing their path unaltered, going by their own momentum instead of the hand's momentum. When desired one grabs the handle or some part of the poi, and most commonly without adding any jerkiness, thus looking like they merely reattach the hand, continues spinning. Differant from a toss.
Will this work??
-Poikid-
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works fine here. What if it's manipulated by telekenisis though?
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Erm... ok M-W.com says :the production of motion in objects (as by a spiritualistic medium) without contact or other physical means
Ok from what I get of that, what your asking is about a toss. A toss is manipulated differantly from a release, because before you let go of a toss you mess with the flow just slightly to make it do differant things in the air instead of just flowing its own merry little path in its own momentum, thus making it differant from a release.
If that is not what you mean, please explain
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Funny you mention that. My throws used to be all over the place until I began to focus on a powerful beam of energy eminating from my palm as i Realease the Poi. Visualise that beam pushing around in an arc to bring the poi handle directly back to your hand. That's how i first started isolating the throws.
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Ohh , is that what it means?? [slams head] I'll have to work on that then. Howevers, anyone disagree w/ mine??
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No real disagreement here, aside from my inner grammar/spelling Nazi...
I'm not really up on this release/toss stuff, though. One thing I can point out is that poi seems to be plural every time...You don't have to release both poi at one time, so shouldn't the definition use poi as a singular? Maybe something like this:
Release:
A move where at any point in spinning the handle is released and the poi continues moving with its path unaltered, going by its own momentum instead being propelled by the hand. When desired one grabs the handle or some part of the poi, usually without adding any jerkiness; thus looking like it merely reattaches the hand and continues spinning. Different from a toss.
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Ok I definitally see what you mean , I read back and noticed I put 'their' instead of it's or something lol. Howevers I dont really know about poi plural and singular..not only do I suck at that subject but I use it single all the time
Thanks man, you're totally right I didnt realize I used it plurally. 
Ok, so using our def's combined, how about this
That one sounds good except for the propelled part, reason is because you dont 'propell' it when releasing or tossing really. A toss is more of the way you let go of it, and when ofcourse, but you dont propell
Release:
A move where at any point in spinning the handle is released and the poi continues moving with its path unaltered, going by its own momentum instead of the momentum and path altered by the hand. When desired one grabs the handle or some part of the poi, usually without adding any jerkiness; thus looking like it merely reattaches the hand and continues spinning. Different from a toss.
So really we were saying the same thing except for the plural part
Right on man
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Actually in retrospect I don't much like propelled either, albiet for different reasons. I was talking about just spinning normally, when the motion comes from the hand/wrist (Or shoulder, or...let's not get into that). Think what we've got here could still be cleaned up a little...let's try this:
*sticks fist into the air and points ring at the sky*
Release:
A move where at any point in spinning the handle is released and the poi continues moving by its own momentum with its path unaltered, instead of having its momentum and path controlled by the hand. When desired one grabs the handle or some part of the poi, usually without adding any jerkiness; thus looking like it merely reattaches the hand and continues spinning. Different from a toss.
Same thing, I just think it reads a teensy bit better this way.
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I agree
That does read nicer. Well done Raven! How about we give it 1 more day incase someone has some issues, then we'll make it official 
Lol , that was fast tho...handy being online at the same time.
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Very handy. :mrgreen:
Although it is almost 2 AM and I've got a busy day of high school ahead...
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(It doesn't matter much, I'm in college already