Organization

I didn't really see a place designated for discussing this, so I thought I'd make one. The idea is that people can post about how they think the Encyclopoidia should be organized in general. What things should be grouped, what should be linked to what, etc.

Now I'm not entirely sure how Matt's planning to organize this thing, but I figure that this'll make it easier to try and make everyone happy. Obviously we can't have everyone making the final decision, but having one place for this sort of commentary could be useful.

Let's start off with something simple. How should the Encylopoidia deal with moves that can be done with different numbers of beats? (2-beat weave, 3-beat weave, 4, 5, 6, etc.) Should all of these variations be in one entry? Separate entries? How in detail should they be mentioned?

I'd say that they ought to be in one entry. Something like this:

Weave:

A pattern where one poi follows the other making circles from one side of the body to the other.

This move can be done in different amounts of beats, as follows:
2-beat: each poi makes one circle on each side
3-beat: each poi makes two circles on the opposite side and one on its own side
4-beat: each poi makes two circles on each side
5-beat: each poi makes three circles on the opposite side and two on its own side
etc.

Comments

I think that putting a defintion of weave then linking to varations such as the 5 beat would work well.

Yeah, that would work. The part where it gets a little tricky is similar variations for different moves. Like with windmills and corkscrews. You can do multiple beat versions of those, but it's not quite the same as doing multiple beat versions of the weave.

Or am I just being overly detail-oriented?

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Or am I just being overly detail-oriented?

Not possible in this particular forum Raven. And im not really planning very much, I think this is a great topic and the points you raise definitely need to be discussed.

Were you have listed the beat count above I call these 'Base Patterns'

I don't want to venture into this too much at the moment because i'm more interested in how other poiple want to organise the language.

I think that under 5 Beat Weave there should be a full description then at the end would be something like see 'Weave' which would take you to another page listing Weaves with different Base Patterns.

Then Base pattern would link to its own page to explain the idea behind that and how you can use that concept to explore new patterns.

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[quote="Raven7421"]Yeah, that would work. The part where it gets a little tricky is similar variations for different moves. Like with windmills and corkscrews. You can do multiple beat versions of those, but it's not quite the same as doing multiple beat versions of the weave.

[quote="spiralx"]Actually the higher beat versions are the same as higher-beat weaves - it's the same hand movements.

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But if you do that wouldn't it be simpler to organize moves by family?

I dont really think that would work out because if there is a newer spinner that isnt familiar as of yet with families, it would be mighty annoying to try and find something when you dont know where to look, whereas since they would know the name they could just go directly to it and just have a note in there saying it was a member of a certain family... I think that would be easier for the spinner.

Besides, isnt this Poidia for helping other people learn? If so shouldnt we put more time into it, though annoying it may be at that time, so that in the long run more benefit from it? Just random thoughts :2 :34 :44 Raven Sphism/gigglesmiley

-M-P Kid-

Good point. I just think it makes more sense to put all of the variations of a move in one place. Although as an alternative we have a list of links to variations in the entries for moves.

If we really want to be friendly to newcomers, we should probably create an extra section called "Basics" that contains just the basic stuff. It'd just be a list of links to the entries for (you guessed it Sphism/winksmiley ) the basics.

[quote="poikid"] :44 Raven Sphism/gigglesmiley

Ah true true that would be good

Wouldn't having all that on one page get kind of confusing? maybe I'm just misreading.

Well, what I'm talking about is organizing links to things. Like the page that's there right now is purely alphabetical. You click the A link and get a list of links to everything starting with the letter A.

So organizing by families would be a list of links: first would be the link to the definition of the move, then links to definitions of variations.

Really since it's just links to pages if we wanted we could organize it both ways at the same time pretty easily. It'd just require setting up more links. I think it'd be worth it.

That's what I was hoping for. Sphism/gigglesmiley

Just wanted to pull this topic back up becasue as we've started entering stuff in the wikipoidia we really need to decide what format the pages will take and what structure there should be.

I figure that the home page should separate things into families; weaves, butterflys etc

The Index lists everything A-Z, nice one for starting that off spiralx.

I've been entering stuff into the index first. Then clicking the link from the index, editing the page so the the descripion is emphasised with '''at beginning and end'''

Then putting a link back to the index like this [

] so that i can save the page, check it and go back to the index page to input another.

I think you can make templates for pages but i haven't figured out how yet.

That way we could make a template and edit it for each page.

any ideas.

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