Glowstring vid of me :D

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That was AWESOME Sphism/gigglesmileySphism/gigglesmileySphism/gigglesmileySphism/gigglesmiley I LOVED it :34 Excellant job man, that was incredibly smooth, the mind games and hyperloops superb Sphism/gigglesmileySphism/gigglesmiley . Nice fast editing too Sphism/smilesmiley Keep it up man, am impatiently awaiting more lol. :6 :7 :5 :19

M-P Kid

Nice wraps, crossers and BTL Sphism/smilesmiley Don't really think mindgames look very nice though, and there wasn't a huge amount of variation otherwise. Then again, I'm not a glowstringer...

thanks for the feedback Sphism/gigglesmiley
you didn't like the mindgames?? :/ sad... that's somethin i really liked... but then again, i watch it it's really not that impressive... looks much better live...

curious... HUGE AMOUNT OF VARIATION?? there wasn't!?!? what else is there 2 do?

Excellent job. Mindgames are really cool, I need to figure them out sometime. Wraps and hyperloops were also great.

Out of curiousity, what kind of strings do you use and how do you tie them?

Lol I thought there was tons of variation but kudos spiralx :2 Wil...keep it up man, lovin' it Sphism/gigglesmiley

M-P Kid

thanks again poikid Sphism/gigglesmiley

as for the strings i use. normal shoe strings... i use kinda stretchy ones... length is 45" i but the glowstick in and pull the ends even, then double knot. i put my pinky at the end of the knot and then i let the string rest in the palm of the hand, then i wrap the string around my index finger accordingly for the correct/most comfortable length.

Is the video DIVX encoded?

Very nice Wil I liked it a lot. How long have you been stringing and how often do you practice?

i've been stringin about a year and a few months on and off. i dun practice much anymore.. acutally never anymore Sphism/tonguesmiley i do a bit of freehand but not even that really i'm pretty much done...

it's DIVX encoded.

[quote="poikid"]Lol I thought there was tons of variation but kudos spiralx :2 Wil...keep it up man, lovin' it Sphism/gigglesmiley

M-P Kid

Wil, that is the same vid you sent me right? I loved it but never got round to telling you. I love the mindgames. I used to use glowsticks a lot but haven't in ages. I got some out the other night and realised that they are frigging hard Sphism/smilesmiley Nice work, and thanks for sharing it with all the spherculoids out there, and spiralx ~ there is no difference between poi and glo round here Sphism/smilesmiley it's just one big happy family :34

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[quote="spiralx"][quote="poikid"]Lol I thought there was tons of variation but kudos spiralx :2 Wil...keep it up man, lovin' it Sphism/gigglesmiley

M-P Kid

Thread the needles, hyperloops, buzzsaws, fountains, waist wraps, all kinds of things.

I'm not criticising your skill though! Just saying I generally prefer to see a wider range of things Sphism/smilesmiley

ahh.. so more poi right? but you should remember it isss a glowstick vid Sphism/tonguesmiley not a poi vid.

curious: wat is a waist wrap?

Yeah, I think maybe it's a stylistic difference.

A waist wrap is a club swinging move (which is why it has the term wrap even though it doesn't touch your body) which is like a fountain but two beat. There's a thread on it in the Encyclopoidia section which goes into more detail Sphism/smilesmiley

Dude- Sick vid- i'm going to have to give stringing a try-

Keep it up Sphism/smilesmiley

Chut

wil- I think he is refering to you don't use much variation in your vid.. you use a lot of the same stylistic moves...

sprial- the reason most glokids stuff is like that is because they don't see the point in showing you what EVERYONE else has been doing forever.. so you don't get as much poi as you do in straight poi vids.. if that makes sense

but I could jsut be way off as usual...

mmm yup... the video doesn't display 'all' my moves... but... shows the more recent things that i have figured. out... and yes. i don't see the point in showing things everyone else has seen already... but also the fact is... if your going to jus do poi... might as well do poi for real then. no need for glowsticks... i'm try'n to set things apart from poi and glowsticking.

as for same stylistic moves? isn't that just my style then? lol... i dunno.

nah.. what I was asying is that inthe glo community you typically show what you've been working on and not just spin... whereas nonglokids tend to spin more wf what they know in general and not just the new stuff in vids...

I wasn't saying anything about your style specifically.. I was pointing out thats' why there wasn't the variety in your video that people like spiral are used to...

both of you look at vids and variety different.. and I was just trying to bridge the gap.. help you to see what each other meant.. not meant as a critque of what you did.. I dug it.. you are woking on a lot of things in that vid tha tI've been playing with last few months and some things that I haven't..

oh? what things did i do in the vid taht you have been working on?

I'm planning on busting out my glows tonight, I have been reinspired to play with those perdy glowy toys again. Sphism/gigglesmiley

awesome! Sphism/gigglesmiley

[quote="wil"]oh? what things did i do in the vid taht you have been working on?

I don't spin my crossers like toxics.. persdonally I see no point in doing a crosser if you arn't going to twist up.. so I do them like yours... from a weave you offset one poi and you end up with one arm locked into the armpit of the other.. those crossers I think are fun.. especially when you take a butterfly weave and do it to get the butterfly crossers.. but yeah.. those are the only style of crossers I do....

the btb tick-tock wraps you do.. i.e. the ones where from a btb weave you hit one on the bicep and one on the thigh... I have those listed in my wrap theory.. not as being specifically btb, but there aren't many wraps that I do upfront that I don't do btb...

its really nice to see someone who does the airwrap btl EXACTLY as I do.. I always here people talking about them.. and I worked for a little while getting them from a weave in the floor plane by find that wrapping them with only one poi btl works much mroe efficiently and visually appealing...

you take the gumby mindgame stuff a bit further then I do.. but I've never really developed any of that on my own.. and honestly hadn't seen anyone ever really do any other then the basic linkcatch and wrap around to btb and back around th other side.. have 3 or 4 versions I use but my straight jacket one always ends up with the poi getting twisted up btb and not coming apart..

it was weird.. I watched you spin most of what I've been doing since January.. it was also nice to see some new things as well.. always have to challenge peeps you know Sphism/winksmiley like I don't have close to the control of an orbital that you do.. i pretty much can have them half fountian during a spiral, but that's about as far as I've gotten without isolating.. hehe..

about the only things you missed that I've been working on is a butterfly trace combo.. from a reverse butterfly pass the poi under the thighlet them wrap and pull them back around in a trace, tracing the knee, which then pulls into a neck trace and back down to the other thigh, then knee trace... butterflies are so much fun.. they just keep spinning light round and round the legs.. hehe.. I'm sure you can follow that.. and probably already do that.. its not much different from a trace that I've seen you and wes do that I use a lot.. and that's the knee/neck trace from a weave..

I've also been trying to find new ways to work with the butterfly.. because you can take and have one poi enter btl from the fdront and the other from the back and do a butterfly on either the right or left sides.. which sucks because you have to wrap to come out of it.. however, if you take the smae motion and turn it.. (i.e. under leg instead of BTL) it ends up in the wallplane... for instance if you pass each poi under the left legyou can do a butterfly in front of the left leg (like you would normally on the left side from the first part, or go behind you around the right leg.. now in order to get it behind you though you have to bend over..by bending over the top of your hands during the butterfly motions points at the ground which allows the top arc of a forward butterfly to spin on the ground side.. this allows you to pull the butterfly back out without wrapping.. :24

I dunno if you followed that.. but you and wes and them have been at this longer then I, so I'm sure you canm figure it out fro that if you haven't already..

but to stop digressing.. I liked the vid.. it gave me a chance to see what I'm doing without a mirror, which is soo helpful.... one day I'll own a camera and will just sit and record my practicing because thats is infinitly morre helpful towards spinning better then watching in the mirror..

I love watching tracers but I cannot figure out what the heck is going on with it. If anyones got vid with lots of em that'd be helpful.

Wil, got my glows last night, had a blast, my style with glows is the same as with my poi, so its totally differant but still pretty. Anyways just wondering, is there a specific thing to do to get all the wraps so clean and effortless looking? Lots of practice or is there a secret?

M-P Kid

hey poikid.. there's a topic in the rotation reversal section that's called basic wrap theory.. it works from the basis of no wrap knowledge and works you all the way up and through building your own advanced tracer combos.. basically everything you need to know to get a firm foundation from which you can either a) see tracer vids and follow them easily and/or b) sit at home and be able to unlock the many tracer potentials for yourself.. basically pick from it what you need... just be sure to read past the uber-long original post since there are some additional points made later..

I was kinda hoping wes or wil would have commented on it.. pointing out any basics that I missed.. I know there's a lot of things I don't discuss, but I think I managed to provide a sound foundation from which you can build..

Right on thanks Rev :22 I'll definitally check it out :36

i am pretty bad at explaining things in words :/ that's why i have vids Sphism/tonguesmiley

I wish we had a tracer video tutorial.

I've been working since december.. I wanted to amke a set of wrap and tracer vids to link with my theory post... but I can't ever seem to get a camera.. 3 times I've been cancelled on the day of.. its really getting frustrating...

traces really aren't that difficult to do... but mak'n up combos with them is...
there really aren't that many traces to do on the body seriously, but incorporating it with wraps and catches and such is what makes em useful...
to trace all you do is wrap but instead of lett'n it bounce of you pull through and let it go aroudn whatever part you are 'wrapping' that's it.

oh and the video is up again Sphism/smilesmiley

Hehe well while reading Rev's wrap thread over in the rotational reverse, I figured out how to do one of them there spiral wraps. Woot woot I could never get those before. Still figuring out tracers but atleast I've got something fun to add into my spinning. Tankas Rev! :42

-Poikid-

I get lost in text discriptions. Well with poi, now with contact juggling it works fine.

i agree... visual is so much more simple Sphism/tonguesmiley

the key to remember with traces I think is that your hand leads the poi... when spinning we commonly think of the poi leading our hands.. i.e the centrifugal force pulls the poi in the shape we want.. think of the 2bt weave.. basically you just pull your hand left to right and most of the rest is done for you.. well with traces its not like that.. your hand is pulling the poi.. no longer a matter of centrigual force.. the poi will move whereever you pull to.. but it won't do that well unless ther is some kind of tension.. this is where the fulcrum comes in.. anywhere you can wrap can act as a fulcrum.. basically you have to pull around that fulcrum..
for example if I pull up my chest over my shoulder then my shoulder acts as a fulcrum.. and as my hand moves down my back the poi moves up to my shoulder.. it doesnt move down like my hand does.. now once it crosses the shoulder, the poi will head to the next fulcrum point.. If I were to lift my left foot behind me, then I could take my hand after going downmy back and wrap around the foot.. the foot then becomes the next fulcrum and thepoi HAS to move to that ppoint before it can continue on to the next point..

so long trace combos are difficult because they require a mastery of adding fulcrums like a giant connect the dots.. the result however is this beautiful mass of tanlged string around your body that disappears as the poi runs from point to point.. which in my opinion is just amazing..

simple traces occur from a wrap.. where instead of letting the wrap recoil, you pull your handle.. this takes all the recoil slack out of the poi, forcing it to make laps around the wrapped body part without ever getting any further from that body part.. hence the name trace.. so getting started with a trace is easy.. enter from a wrap, from there comes the mass of connecting the dots mentioned above..

Rev is getting good, I understood that. I think need to watch that video, and the techno turtles one.

reading text and writing text of poi is diffcult.. and its a skill just like poi itself.. Sphism/winksmiley It also helps you to better understand what you are doing by being able to read and write about it..

Holy crap 8O :34 Rev :34 Oh wrap/trace/all that master Sphism/gigglesmileySphism/gigglesmileySphism/gigglesmiley That made complete and total sense. Thank you -major hug- I'm off for tracing now!

your welcome.. I would by far not call me master... I am padiwan.. not jedi.. not average joe.. in that happy space between.. glad I could help.. your gonna be pimp at this if you keep up kiddo.. learn it all you can now.. you'll be proud of it later..

I can't wait to see this kid in a few years.. heheh..

[quote="wil"]the fact is... if your going to jus do poi... might as well do poi for real then. no need for glowsticks... i'm try'n to set things apart from poi and glowsticking.

heya will! long time no chat hehe...

youve gotten ALOT more down since the last vid... very nice indeed

loved all the crossers, youve gotten alot better for not having practiced much lol

im not much of a person for mindgames, theyre cool and all, (and really complicated)... i just like seeing more circles created by the regular spinning.... the mindgames (for me) interrupt the flow hehe

excelent job tho Sphism/gigglesmiley

and as far as poi and glowstringing goes... i agree with the comment that its all the same thing.... in the end, a weave is a weave, a butterfly is a butterfly, etc.... only diff is the object that makes the light trails wether it be fire, LEDs, glowsticks, flashlights, beamers.....even then it doesnt need to make trails... tennis balls, practice poi, flagheads....

its all Poi Sphism/coolsmiley (just different forms of poi) and its all part of the greatest hobby out there :11

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its all Poi (just different forms of poi) and its all part of the greatest hobby out there

Heck yah Sphism/gigglesmiley