Define ~ Link

Define ~ Link

family of moves in which the strings are intentionally brought together bringing the center of spin of the two poi to a single point.. ie. tangles, knots, etc.

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I dont know any of these, links knots or tangles. Sorry man Sphism/sadsmiley

new concepts to replaced the misunderstood terms airwrap and hyperloop... starting over.. its makes it convenient in that the terms make sense and that they provide an excellent teaching tool.. it much easier to explain someone knots (think turns like a hangmans noose.) they twist up and untwist.. and tangles.. well they are those funky things that seem to constantly be tangling but never getting anywhere.. they are described.. but now by delineating links instead of a tangle family.. we can also add other linked concepts that don't have a classification.. I don't mean to offend the glowkids when I say this but link catches.. which come in lots of varieties.. which is a link (knot/tangle it doesn't matter.. ) and then catch the poi.. craziness ensues.. we can also add link wraps..
basically a family for all things spinning about the same fixed point..

just another family name for hyperloops, tangles or nexuses?

*shrug*

its ok, i think tangles is better and more descriptive. or loops, or hyperloops, i think adding another overall name that dosnt actually define a given thing is gonna complicate things further...

T :twisted:

I wasn't thinking of adding a name..I was trying to find wasy to combine all of the linked moves.. ala the tanlge, the knot, the catches, the throws, the releases, and the wraps..

that's a whole lot of stuff that all revolve around this same feature.. kinda like the butterfly stuff all going opposite directions..

basically a way to get all the things with the same premise together.. all of these operate the same.. essentially..

is it?... all a link is a hyperloop or airwrap caught in the hands making a chain link... that's all... i don't understand how it can have a family of moves?.. maybe catching in different places but that's about all.

So link is just a term that would cover all knots and tangles, and what ever else there may involve the strings running into each other?

hrmmm... i suppose, i didn't explain myself enough, what i meant to say is Link (Catch) it's where the pois/strings are crossed and the pois are in the same hand if that makes sense.

you can also do wraps/rotational reverse with 'links' but it's much easier to catch the pois then 'throw' them into a wrap/rotational reverse.

Hmm, i reckon we should abandon using Link as a term for all tangly stuff (seeing as we don't seem to be using it anyway) and use it for the stuff wil is talking about
(which i've been playing with but don't have a name for)
The only reason i thought that Link might be a good name is that it wasn't already in use. But it turns out it is being used, and for a type of move there aren't any other terms for. So it clearly makes sense to keep the glowsticking terms in this case.

I actually listed a bunch of synonyms... link,coupling, etc.. basically these are moves where the poi are connected...

your link wraps, your link catches, your twisties, tangles, and knots.. they zll link... if you do not like link.. then pick a name for the adjoining that you prefer.. because that's what they do.. all of them functiojn the same.. regarless of whethere they arre catches, wraps, twistie, tangles, or knot..

at the moment i'm mainly using the term "tangly stuff" Sphism/winksmiley

well I never argued the term link because 1) yes it was a glowsticking term but it was always link something like link catches, link wraps etc..
2) all the link wraps, link catches etc.. operate the exact same way as the tangly stuff.. you have two centers of spin you consolidate them into one and from there each move becomes unique.. twisties twist.. tanlges tangles.. link catches are caught and manipualted and link wraps are just wraps done with the single center of spin (primarily from tanlges and twisties, but I've seen them done from catches) so link just seemed like an appropriate term.. it works better then joined, or coupled, etc.. imo... but mine is not the only opinion... so I'm open to suggestions..

mmm i suppose... zll?? i dunno what you mean by that, but i guess it could be considered a family in that sense.

oh riiiight :oops:

sorry, i got the impression that link was a glowsticking term for tangled catches only. If its actual use is as a prefix for any tangly stuff (that is what you're saying right?), then that makes it a really logical name to use.

ok still cool with link then Sphism/coolsmiley

oh and i totally agree that the linked catches, wraps etc. should all be considered part of the same tangled family.

incidentally... you left out Link Stalls Sphism/winksmiley

that's because I consider link stalls to be part of the bidivision of link wraps.. where you have link wrap one-the poi link and then the poi wrap off a body part and link wrap 2- wher the poi link and spin to a stall before recoiling back the other direction.... I don't really consider it a stall so much as a wrap because it recoils back the other way just like a wrap does.. basically it just wraps poi on poi..

unless youve found a way to actually stall a link without poi on poi wrap/recoil..

Sphism/confusedsmiley um yeah, those moves i've linked to.

They don't recoil from the wrap. They wrap, then i stall one or both like an ordinary stallm, then reverse.

Im confused.. like when I say they wrap and recoil I mean they twist around each other until they lose momentum and then start untwisting back out.. ie. wrap and recoil... can you elaborate a littl more on what you mean by wrap stall and reverse?

becuase I've had them untwist both in the direction they entered and untwist in a direction opposite they entered.. depending on if they flip or not right before/after the stall..

i know what you're talking about, but it's not them. Check the link above for the thread i put on HOP.

ok... your ultra.... that.. recoils.. you can get it to come out a bf... but it depends on how you come out of it.. its one of those things like spiraling a tangle down.. those exit either back into their weave, into a weazve in an opposite direction, or into a butterfly depending on how you exit it.. so I can't say I fully understand that being a stall of a different sort..

your dangling twanger ma bobble.. that.. is some strange stall.. I see what you mean by wrap stall... its kinda like a body stall.. only with the poi body.. as in it does like a wrap but stalls out without recoiling.. to be pulled back into spin at some later point..

yeah, that's right.

The meta-hyper-sphere (or "wallplane twist to double stall to reverse butterfly", if you're into silly names Sphism/winksmiley ) can be done recoil style, but done properly its like all the momentum is just sucked out of it mid tangle, and both poi end up stalled and untangled. The reverse butterfly bit is irrelevant really, thats just what i reckon looks nice to do next.

i think i might rename the "twisty sliding dangle tangle" to "dangling twanger ma bobble". its got a nice ring to it... Sphism/gigglesmiley

thought you might like that ... I don't mean to tangentify the topic, but I got the name because a friend sent me a link to a vid clip from the rainbow bbc show.. rainbow friends or something.. anyway.. its this hilarious clip about bongo's twanger.. I'll post it in the social section.. suffice to say that twanger has been a part of my vocabulary ever since.. it brings out the beavis and butthead type kid in me.. "huh hu-huh.. you said twanger" Sphism/gigglesmiley

That's the pisstake episode of Rainbow they made and never showed? Heheh, seen that... so many innuendos Sphism/gigglesmiley