Defined ~ Anti-spin

Defined ~ Anti-Spin

Poi Handle:
Anti-spin:

Where the hand moves the point of rotation in a circle the opposite direction as the poi. Example, forward wheel plane. Poi spins forward, hand makes a circle backwards.

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Ah gotcha, I know what you mean. Surely better defined as when the centre of rotation is moving clockwise while the poi are spinning anti-clockwise, or vice versa?

Also would you say that one hand in a butterfly weave is doing anti-spin? Because it sort of is the same thing but not quite. And fucking butterfly weaves up (on purpose or not :lolSphism/smilesmiley often leads into tangles...

first post, shure, you just said it.

second post. no. because the butterfly weave is based on a ttn motion which is pushing through the same point, rather than moving out around it, so that when you change sides and change hand positions you are still actually moving in the same direction as the poi, if you did wall plane buterfly floweers one would be in antispin, but thats diffrent.

T :twisted:

Fair enough. I guess anti-spin only really makes sense if you're changing the centre of rotation in a plane not across planes.

pretty much, its closly related to the isolation family. tho if you want a bit of a laugh, try ttn anti-spin

eg: backwards buterfly, bring the bottom hand up and place it ontop of the top poi. will quickly teach you some rules of anti-spin. hehehe

T :twisted:

I wish I could see this stuff. I can picture this anti spin pretty good though.

Never heard of this man. Keep it up

its pretty high level stuff. i.e. really hard.

buut it does mean that you can re learn all your patterns anti spin.... Sphism/gigglesmiley

T :twisted:

Reinspired I am now Sphism/gigglesmiley

these are indeed "well hard".

reading this has made me think about flowers a bit more...

:idea: you can have flowers within flowers can't you?

say, 4 small flowers, each consisting of 4 circles, arranged at 4 points of a larger circle.

Which opens the possibility for anti-anti-spins :twisted:

Sorry, not on topic really... :oops:

since were defining anti spin here can someone explain it a bit more i dont really understand, though it sounds fun
and what r flowers?

Ok so how about this

Anti-spin:

Where the hand moves the point of rotation in a circle the opposite direction as the poi. Example, forward wheel plane. Poi spins forward, hand makes a circle backwards.

Does this work?

fine by me.. I'm posting some tips for antispin weaves in the section on them.. I've recently come into them and Itchell has learned some as well..

not understanding beyond the flowers stuff... so a ttn but with the other hand pushing through sorta thing?? sounds well confusing but i think i'll save it for a rainy day, too much stuff to learn, not enough hours in the day!

Now it's not a ttn. Well can be obviously but an anti spin is just like an isolation, you can isolate anything , just as you can anti spin anything Sphism/smilesmiley

exactly.. antispin is a center of rotation issue.. it deals with one center of ratation going forward and one going reverse.. for instance the backwards twisting of the reverse weave with the forward spin of the weave..

it's like a thread the needle in the way the motions work... in order to weave this way you have to pull under and then pull out (it does not feel like a push) as you move over..

imagine taking the flower part and shrinking the area downso that the hands aren't as seperated.. which is why I feel the plane twister (parallel version) to be a helpful teaching tool because that swings liek a same direction butterfly.. which helps you get the feel of the same direction TTN...

think about your normal 5bt weave.. do a 5bt weave keeping one hand around the elboww of the other.. and then having them switch planes. you kinda push one poi through the other like a thread the needle only in your weave.. its the same premise by which a butterfly weave works.. the threading (or plane shifts) allow the poi to make those pattewrns..