Whatchamacallits, doodads, and thingamajiggers

I know a bunch of moves, including ones that I really enjoy teaching people, that don't have names! I've decided to start a thread so that people can tell me if these darned things already have names. If you have a move without a name, ask here!

Orbit

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JUL
19
2004
Orbit

I really like spinning in the wall plane. One move I really like is kind of like a split-time low turn/high turn combo in the wall plane. This move needs a name!

Here's what the move looks like... spinning split time in the wall plane clockwise, there's a split-time low turn (right hip, left hip), followed by a split-time high turn (left shoulder right shoulder). If you wanna get fancy, you can go right into a windmill. Basically it's a series of reels, but then a lot of moves are.

I'll try to round up a video...

Orbit

JUL
20
2004
matt

Split time hi and lo turns ~ I always used to call it a cascade but i doubt the juggling comunity would like it.

Good thread. There are loads of patterns like this that just don't quite fit in a box.

¦m¦

JUL
20
2004
Rev

let me play devils advocate and ask why everything has to have a name? I mean why not just call it by what they are: reels.. case in point look at the terms fountain, higher fountain, lower fountain.. and the confusion they've caused.. or airwraps and hyperloops.. etc.. I could go on for a while.. I don't think everything has to have a name..especially if it is a combination of simple stuff with nothing new accomplished and/or added...

JUL
20
2004
Orbit

I'm tired of not having a name for this particular move... it's easy to learn and looks really cool, so it's one that I can teach to relative beginners and get them excited about. I'm totally against arbitrarily naming things for the sake of doing so, but this is one particular thing that really wants to have a name.

JUL
20
2004
Orbit

I think at various times I've called it a cascade and "around the world"... but those are such dull names. Though cascade kind of captures the feeling of the move. I was hoping there already was a name for it.

JUL
21
2004
Rev

I wasnt knocking you wanting to name this particular thing.. (hence the "devils advocate")

Though I can't say from your description that I see this as anything more then reels.. so I was wondering what motivation fueled the idea for the move other then.. this is fun and I like to do it.. I mean... keeping the poi seperated and turning can be fun.. LOTS of fun.. but not just in the way that you described.. and I don't intend to go around naming all of them.. so I was merely asking what makes this one special enough that it deserves a name.. rather then just being some fun reels like all the others..

JUL
22
2004
Orbit

I guess it's hard to imagine from the description... there's no turning involved! You just stand and face one direction, poi spinning in wall plane, and right-hip, left-hip, left-shoulder, right-shoulder. I want to say they call this "Rock and Roll" in Santa Barbara, but to be honest I'm not sure if this is what they're referring to when they say that.

JUL
23
2004
Orbit

Alright, I put a video into the Galleries, but in case it doesn't make it, here's a link:

http://orbit.harm.org/NameMe.avi

My friend Alex suggested "Split Time Parallels" -- I'm not sure that's the right name for it...

JUL
27
2004
Orbit

Alright, at the risk of being the only person that posts to this thread, I thought I'd give it a bit of closure.

My friend Rosminah and I decided to call this the "Split Time Brady Bunch" because I often call the low turn the Brady Bunch Turn when teaching it to people.

Why Brady Bunch? Well, for those of us old enough to remember the show, there was an episode where the Bradys were on a variety show. They did this move where they had their arms bent and swinging at their sides, thrusting 45 degrees to the right, then turned and swung their arms 45 degrees to the left. I believe this was when they were singing "You got to keep on, keep on, keep on movin' and groovin' all through the night. You gotta keep on, keep on, keep on doin it riiii-iiiight!"

Well the low turn is the same motion with the hands. arms bent at elbows, right foot forward, pointed 45 degrees to the right,... spin poi forwards, then swing elbows back (like the Bradys!), turn left and push poi back out.

Anyhow, when you see this in person it's goofy and funny... so it's something that sticks in people's heads.

AUG
5
2004
poikid

I love doing this. My sisters and i are hooked on it

I agree it needs a name

Doesnt allian do this one in his vids too?

As for a name... I'm not in favor of the brady bunch merely because they are amongst the most annoying shows in the history of mankind but aside from that.

I'll be thinking for a name.

AUG
5
2004
spiralx

I'm doing lots of those opposite direction split-time at the moment, they're pretty and nice. Michal Kahn's poi spinning book calls them extended reels which is I guess a good term as they a combination of hip and shoulder reels...

AUG
8
2004
djmagicfairy

I just learnt the extended reel from that book and it sounds like what you are describing so maybe that's its name but then again it might not be who knows? I've noticed on this, and other sites that people all over use different names for the same move. This is why this wikipoidia is such a good idea then we can all use the same name and relate it to the same move without confusion...xx

AUG
9
2004
StoneT

Oh man, that's cool Sphism/gigglesmiley

Gotta start doing that!

I'm afraid I refuse to call it the "Split Time Brady Bunch" though, on grounds of taste Sphism/gigglesmiley

If you draw out the circles it kind of looks like some lotus flower or something... ... :idea: Sphism/confusedsmiley:

Hold on a few minuits.

AUG
9
2004
StoneT

This is approx what I think it looks like.

AUG
9
2004
djmagicfairy

Just re-read the post and I don't understand why you say there's turns in it. Do you actually turn or not. You can do this move the other way round which is the way I like by bringing the poi up in front of you then doing the shoulder reel and then the hip reels then back in front. Which is the one in the book. Then it progresses to a wiggle where you are spinning one circle in front of the other all the time so for example when one is behind your shoulder the other is behind your hip and so on .. (does that make sense?) xxx

AUG
10
2004
poikid

Nope but I'm willing to take your word for it Sphism/gigglesmiley

AUG
10
2004
Orbit

watch the video! it's hard to explain, because you don't actually turn, but the best way to explain the move is to talk about it as if you do.

AUG
10
2004
Orbit

I gotta remember what I did with my copy of Michal's book...

I think the wiggle is a move I learned in Thailand... where the poi are moving in opposite directions (butterfly) but each poi moves front, front, hip, shoulder... with one hand (in my case the left) being one count behind the other.

Orbit.

AUG
10
2004
djmagicfairy

yeah that is so it orbit, much better explained than what I said. You gotts find that book it's all in there. Think hard. Sphism/gigglesmiley x

AUG
10
2004
matt

StoneT: that image you posted just made something in my head click.

Poi patterns describe the shapes of sacred geometry, cheers

The pattern you're talking about is really nice.

1) butterfly in front

2) butterfly behind the head

3) butterfly behind the back

2 and 3 need to be swapped depending if you're going inwards or outwards, the one above is inwards.

Practice it in time, then once that's tight just mix up the timing on the hands, so one hand is 1 circle behind. Really useful practice.

¦m¦

AUG
11
2004
StoneT

I've often thought that when looking at photos of fire/glow poi Sphism/smilesmiley

I can actually map the trajectories in 3D which is a much better representation but you would need a 3D package to see them. Sphism/confusedsmiley

On Orbit's vid though he is actually doing chase rather than butterfly but the same principals apply.

AUG
11
2004
djmagicfairy

I can't see your vid orbit it won't play on my machine. I might cry Sphism/gigglesmiley

AUG
12
2004
Orbit

It's a really big file, so it might take a LOONG time to load.

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