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sorry.. but this is some of the coolest uses of psychology that I've ever seen..

3d monitor

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very cool, i want it

OOOOHHHhhhohohohoh...

[thinking... tinking...]

How can I get my work to buy me one of those? Sphism/confusedsmiley

Very nice!

one of the guys in my dept works with sharp on developing these 3d monitors.... he has a couple in his office. they are pretty cool to view 3d on, but when i saw them (admittedly this was a while ago) the 3d image was not crisp and clean like normal monitor images. still flocking impressive tho

to be honest guys.. the 3d monitor is cool.. but I honestly dig the use of psychology to make it.. to send stuff to the brian in a manner that makes your mind form the 3d rather then actually seeing 3d..

that's just me though..

It's hardly that clever though... it's just exploiting the fact that we have stereoscopic vision. It's a little bit more cunning than those two-colour 3D glasses, but not hugely.

I think its clever because had they been smart they would ahve been doing things like that from the beginning and never used the gay glasses..

I'm nto saying that its ground breaking in that theyh jsut figured out... I'm saying its awesome that we're finally applying things we know baout how our minds work mroe effectively..

the next step is integrating technology that makes use of this so that the 3d desktop has more options then jsut blurring things out to the edges.. almopst hackers-ish.. where you can point and click in 3d space..

just my take.. I'm nto all that techy..

This doesn't apply anything about how our minds work though. As I said, it just exploits the fact that we have stereoscopic vision, which is more a matter of physiology than psychology.

Now the technology where people can control computers just by thinking, that is truly exploiting our understanding of the brain.

yes and no...

yes it is physiologythat we have steroscopic vision...

however.. that part of physiology.. along with nerons, nerves, etc.. all fall under psychology.. I mean granted they fall into medicine too.. but the basis that they are using for the seperationsof images and the rejoining of images doesnt happen purely because we have two eyes.. it also deals with how our eyes and brain process information.. like covering one eye and seeing an apple.. and then covering the other eye and reading the word apple.. because certain brain functions override other functions.. both apply here..

have to say im with spiralx on this one...

its only psychology in the same sense that stereoscopic vision in our every day 3d environment is... (obviously there is some hardcore resoning going on up top to 'interpret' the streo image but the 3d display doesnt need to understand that reasoning, it simply recreates it with an alternative style of input)

i would say the technology was based on physiology, but that its still reet clever...

I'm saying the phsyisology that I learned this under was in my 3000 level psych course and was covered in again in my 7000 level psych course.. (to whihc this semester I'll see if it is in yet another..)

but what do I know..

[quote="Rev"]I'm saying the phsyisology that I learned this under was in my 3000 level psych course and was covered in again in my 7000 level psych course.. (to whihc this semester I'll see if it is in yet another..)

yeah but it wasnt liek a chapter or anything.. this is whole sections of psychology devoted to this stuff...

I mean if it were the way your eyes just picked shit up I would understand but its not...

your eyes are wired to the brain.. and it DOES get filtered.. ie. the experiment on brain halve where there is a picutre of an apple and the word apple.. and if you cover one eye all you see is the word and you cover the other and all you see is the apple.. this falls into categories like that on how we percieve and put shit together.. not just oh I ahve two eyes..

Are you sure about that? My ex was doing psychology while we were at uni specialising in the visual system and I used to help her revise and stuff reasonably often, and I've never heard of anything like that. My understanding was that the information from both eyes was combined before any semantic processing occured.

I was just refering to a particular experiment that dealt with the seperation of eye content, seperation of content in the to halves of the brain, etc.. which I mentioned to show that there is a filtration of input..

tell ya what.. I have nother 7000 pysh class this semseter specifically on the cognitive faculites and what not, so I'll ask aorund the dept..

I think this is definitely an area of overlap. A lot of schools are setting up interdisciplinary departments in "Neuroscience" to cover this... Because there's also a computer science component that deals with logic and artificial intelligence. One of my close friends got a doctorate in psychology, but focused on the physiological aspects of perception and cognition (I think...).

However, I doubt that this particular product has much to do with the perception effects learned by psych people... I suspect that it just physically projects a different image in two slightly different directions. Think about what happens when you're at an odd angle from an LCD screen... now if you aimed that effect in the right way, and people were willing to stand still and not move their heads so much, you could totally pull off a stereoscopic effect.

What I'm saying is, you're both right.

orbit youre spot on... the displays have quite a restricted area from which to view the full 3d-ness-issity-atude

its a clever extension of the classic 2d magic eye pics... one of the intermediate stages(again... ish) being moving 2d magic eye stuff (does anybody else remember that episode of 'tomorrow's world'?)

Hmmm... Anyone seen the film "Paycheck"?

no I havent...

but.. I have found some interesting studies.. relating somewhat to the topic..

1- in patients with certain forms of epilepsy, doctors used to sever the connections between the brain hemispheres.. this solved their problems, however, they noticed a certain trend.. things seen with the left eye were only understood spatially, and things with the right eye were only understood verbally.. in other words, if the word apple was seen by the left eye, the person would not be able to say what he was looking at.. the interesting thing is, when given a choice of several objects, they always picked the right object, even though they could not recall or read the word.

2- I can remember the name of the disease, hemi something (hemi-neglect?).. but basically it involves people that do not perceive object to the left of center.. these people shave half their faces.. eat half their food, etc.. some patients are so bad that they do not recognize their own left amr and leg when lying in bed and thus try to "throw" the other person out.. There's a whole lot mroe to this, but I think what's even more surprising is they did a study in which people did a series of trials first with their head straight and body straight, then with head straight body 15 degree angle to the right, and finally head straight body 15 degrees to the left.. and surprisingly people did roughly the same on the right and center trials but EVERYONE significantly decreased when their body was turned 15 degrees left... the trials were basically looking at a group of letters randomly placed on the screen.. and you had to click right (yes) or left (no) if certain key letters were in that pattern..

3- right and left brain phenomena potentially relateds to other body parts.. doctors studied newborns who had no understanding of language or anything (obviously) and put tiny sensors in their ears.. and then played either music or spoken word.. the right side resonated stronger with words, and the left ear resonated stronger with music.. regardless of the position that the sounds came from..

just thought i'd drop that out there.. I have some links for some interesting projects in attention and perception.. I'll see about getting some up later..

Rev I think you will like this http://www.rocketsoftware.com/portfolio/securityshades/index2.htm

works on any LCD screen. It's purely software based and manipulates contrast to block out the screen when not viewed from straight ahead. Although this is definatly purely exploiting technology, not even physiology involved, it's definatly a cool and simple innovation that's pretty practical.

I have to say... yes I like..

They have those things on the ATM machines oputside my local Sainsbury's. A good idea, because it means your friends can't take the piss out of you for having less money than them! *lol*